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| fourdeadpresidents Mon 3rd Aug 2009 13:00
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Windows 7 is the future of all operating systems!!! I LOVE it... Vista look and faster and more stable than XP ever was... There is a free download right now to run the Release Candidate. We WILL be getting it when it gets released in OCT. Right now you can run it free til June 2010 before it shuts down if you don't buy a key.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHnieObV1Z8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-buQI6h2o4
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| DragonSpeed PRO Mon 3rd Aug 2009 15:33
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A quick heads up on that.
There is NO supported upgrade mechanism from Windows 7 RC to RTM. You will have to reinstall your OS when you move to RTM.
That being said - I'm enjoying 7's RC very much.
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| fourdeadpresidents Tue 4th Aug 2009 02:54
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Originally posted by DragonSpeed:
I'm enjoying 7's RC very much.
You an me both... oh yeah Virginia too...
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| DavidNewland PRO Tue 4th Aug 2009 20:46
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Sorry sir,
I am happy windows 7 is great, but from upgrading from XP to Vista NOTHING worked !!!
It was crash city ;)
( even with patch after patch after patch !! )
When I upgraded, none of my music editing software worked, none of my photo editing software worked and none of my video editing software worked. Forum after forum filled with people in identical dilema's to the point they ( and me too ) reverted back to XP where everything, as previously had run flawlessly.
If I upgrade from Windows XP to 7, I sure as hell dont want A TRACE of the trainwreck problems that vista caused ;)
( can you tell I have a bad experience ? *lol* )
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| megmet PRO Tue 4th Aug 2009 22:34
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Originally posted by DavidNewland:
I sure as hell dont want A TRACE of the trainwreck problems that vista caused
I was lucky David....I ignored all of the hype that came with the Vista launch, I stayed with XP.
Not for no reason are companies like Dell insisting that their customers have the right to choose XP as their operating system, even though Microsoft insist that Vista is in there too.
Windows 7 may well be a good system... but I will reserve judgment for at least twelve months, by that time if there are bugs and instability we will all know about it as the Tech forums will be full of it!
If I were cynical I might think that Windows 7 was yet another marketing ploy to get us all to part with more money, then in another couple of years surprise, surprise, out will pop version 8. :-))
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| LisaSam67 Tue 4th Aug 2009 23:09
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Originally posted by megmet:
If I were cynical I might think that Windows 7 was yet another marketing ploy to get us all to part with more money, then in another couple of years surprise, surprise, out will pop version 8. :-))
That should start with "I KNOW" haha 'cause you know it's true! That's how that guy affords that big life of his ;-)
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| megmet PRO Tue 4th Aug 2009 23:12
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Originally posted by LisaSam67:
That's how that guy affords that big life of his
Not at my expense he won't!!!!! ;-))
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| fourdeadpresidents Wed 5th Aug 2009 01:40
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Originally posted by DavidNewland:
upgrading from XP to Vista NOTHING worked !!!
Welcome to 64bit!!! that's why no matter what OS I run it will always be 32bit.
Originally posted by megmet:
If I were cynical I might think that Windows 7 was yet another marketing ploy to get us all to part with more money, then in another couple of years surprise, surprise, out will pop version 8. :-))
Not sure why you say that because they have been working on win 7 longer than Vista has been out. All of the problems everyone has had is because they are trying to run 32bit programs on 64bit systems... Like putting nitro methane in your daily driver... it's gonna burn everything up.
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| megmet PRO Wed 5th Aug 2009 19:02
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Originally posted by fourdeadpresidents:
they have been working on win 7 longer than Vista has been out.
They worked on XP for much longer, and for me and many others it's the one that works best!
As I said before....twelve months from now we will know all the pitfalls of going with 7, that's the reason why they put it out on Beta first..... for us all to do the testing for them!
Not on my machine they don't!!!!! :-)
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| fourdeadpresidents Wed 5th Aug 2009 19:13
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Originally posted by megmet:
that's the reason why they put it out on Beta first
As of RC I haven't found a problem yet at all. I have even tried to crash it and overload it but I haven't been able to crash it.
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| PhotoPro PRO Fri 7th Aug 2009 21:50
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For both VistaOriginally posted by DavidNewland:
When I upgraded, none of my music editing software worked, none of my photo editing software worked and none of my video editing software worked.
For both Vista, and now for Win7 - there is an application you can download and run in XP (I think even in Win 98) that will tell what applications will, won't or they don't know work with Vista. Both utilities came out and were heavily promoted 7-18 months prior to the product shipping.
I can't imagine not running that 1st...:-)
Originally posted by fourdeadpresidents:
Originally posted by DavidNewland:
upgrading from XP to Vista NOTHING worked !!!
Welcome to 64bit!!! that's why no matter what OS I run it will always be 32bit.
Vista is/was available in both 32 & 64bit versions (as will be Win7).
Again, sorry to repeat, but much of the heartache could have been prevented by spending less than 1/2 hour to see what will work. If critical apps are listed as not working (or the database doesn't know) and you have verified from the software vendor one way or another - it seems to me it would be a bit daft to install an OS you're not sure of.
I'm not much of a MSoft supporter - and have certainly had my episodes of horrible angst with their OS's.
I have been running the 64bit (Vista Home Premium) for months now after about a year of the 32 bit version.
I probably will never go back to 32 bit for a number of reasons - not the least of which is 64bit being much more stable.
It's also nice to be able to recognize (and use) more than 3GB of ram (almost all machine now come with 4GB of ram). For those of us that have huge storage needs (hmmm. photographers and videographers come to mind) - 64bit allows recognition of significantly more storage space. Don't kid yourself about how much space you'll ever need, it tends to grow exponentially with each passing year.
It will probably be a slow death, but 32bit's days are numbered.
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| fourdeadpresidents Sat 8th Aug 2009 01:01
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Originally posted by PhotoPro:
it seems to me it would be a bit daft to install an OS you're not sure of.
That's why both Virginia and I ran a partition with Windows 7 on our PCs first while keeping XP in the other partition. What's the worse that can happen? It not work and have to format the partition? Exactly!!! We are running 32-bit for the reasons of not all the "bugs" are worked out of 64-bit apps. Being that all processors are now evolving soon most apps will convert totally.
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| Ruedi PRO Sat 8th Aug 2009 14:14
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Windows 7 will be great for microsofts commercial...
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| DavidNewland PRO Sun 9th Aug 2009 11:46
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" it seems to me it would be a bit daft to install an OS you're not sure of. "
No choice sir, when my XP machine crashed ( after years of abuse I might add ;) ) None of the shops here sold machines with XP on anymore. Desktop pc's : Vista only, laptops ditto !!
I'll never understand why when you're a paying customer they cant install the OS of your choice !
And when I dabbled with every single patch to fix the problems ( about 1yr after vista had been released ) and still nothing worked !! All I got was " We know about this problem and we're working on it !!! )
I know new OS' have teething troubles but making a new OS from the ground up and tossing aside a perfectly stable one seems ridiculous.
In it's defence it was very pretty and colourful. But I was finding myself having to do many more actions to find the same functions I could get much quicker on XP
And the best part of all was it was an absolute b*stard getting vista off the machine before finally getting XP back on.
And from then on it everything installed, worked ( and works !! ) perfectly.
The short version of this rant is it irks me they dont give shop buying pc owners a choice. It's vista, or....more vista ;)
Interesting to see how things work out this time around !
It's released in the UK in October I think ?
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| fourdeadpresidents Sun 9th Aug 2009 12:13
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Originally posted by DavidNewland:
Interesting to see how things work out this time around !
That's why I buy Bar b ones or no OS machines that I can build at a quarter of the cost of a "brand"name. It really is a ripoff on what and brand name PC costs. We got Virginia a bare bones kit and all we had to furnish was the Hard Drive and plug it into the monitor she already had and it only costs $150. I would have to say I can build a PC today better than any Brand Name for about $400.
http://www.tigerdirect.com
http://www.newegg.com
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| megmet PRO Sun 9th Aug 2009 15:50
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Originally posted by DavidNewland:
The short version of this rant is it irks me they dont give shop buying pc owners a choice. It's vista, or....more vista ;)
I totally agree with you David....
The good news there is that if you buy a Dell PC you can still have XP as your OS, the good people at Dell insisted that Microsoft allowed them to give their customers what they were demanding ....we can't all be wrong!!!!.
The only thing is you have now to have Vista on too... so that you have the choice of using it, though why Microsoft would think we would want to do so is quite beyond me!
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| PhotoPro PRO Mon 10th Aug 2009 21:06
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Originally posted by DavidNewland:
None of the shops here sold machines with XP on anymore. Desktop pc's : Vista only, laptops ditto !!
That's really a bummer David - we have tons of vendors here that offer either OS.
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| Paul54 Fri 14th Aug 2009 09:16
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I am running a copy of Windows 7 RC on a computer. It looks good and runs well. The RC version though doesnt seem to like Windows Messenger though. It re-installs each time you open it at the moment.
There are still bugs in the operating system and my advice to anyone is to delay installing it untill at least 6 months after the official launch. Specialy if you have older printers, scanners etc.
People installing from XP will have to wipe their copy of XP and do a clean install. Unless you are total happy on doing that avoid it.
I would advise people to buy a blank hard-drive, install that and put Windows 7 onto that. Then you can swap hard drives between XP and Windows 7.
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| fourdeadpresidents Fri 14th Aug 2009 13:46
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Originally posted by Paul54:
People installing from XP will have to wipe their copy of XP and do a clean install
No they don't just partition your hard drive and install windows 7 on the empty partition... I still have XP and all my XP junk on my hard drive although I use Windows 7 now. And once you intall Windows 7 you can get what you want off your partition. Too Easy.
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| SamWiseWoahZay Sat 15th Aug 2009 20:24
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I am an IT Consultant so have us eand support Vista and XP on a daily basis.
In my opinion...
XP Good.
Vista Bad.
W7 Good
W7 SP1 Even better.
My Vista install has been shite from the start.
W7 will be a welcome release.
I am sure W7 SP1 will be fantastic.
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