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prdigy001
Thu 15th May 2008 16:31
Hello everyone!
Thanks for taking the time to stop in and read my post. Im pretty new to photography, and still in the learning process. I was hoping some of you could take a look at one of my photos, and tell me what I did right, what I did wrong and so on. the photo that I would like to have looked at is this one...




Thanks everyone!!
Captivelight PRO
Thu 15th May 2008 19:12
Nice colour in the sky, nice light on the clouds.

To me would have looked better with some colour and detail in the foreground and hills rather then just solid featureless black. To do that would have meant either using a Neutral Density Graduated filter to help even up the exposure between sky and land keeping the best of both areas intact. Same thing could also be done in software by taking one shot exposed for the land and one for the sky and merging them in software afterwards.

Just my take on it...
LisaSam67 PRO
Thu 15th May 2008 19:13
Originally posted by Captivelight:
using a Neutral Density Graduated filter

that's the filter i just got Louis...... and Miles knows his stuff!!!
prdigy001
Thu 15th May 2008 19:23
See Lisa, Theres that filter again huh!!! Well, ill move it to the front of my shopping list!! I had thought about the HDR merge in CS3, Ill try that tonight, and post the results. No clouds in the sky yet though, hope its a good sunset tonight!!!

Thanks for the posts!!
LisaSam67 PRO
Thu 15th May 2008 21:55
103 down here lakeside. Having a snow cone lol. Not a cloud in sight. BUT the air is crystal clear from the winds. 3 days of this hot blow dryer effect. How is it up in weed?
prdigy001
Thu 15th May 2008 23:00
Hehe



pretty warm here too!
DragonSpeed PRO
Fri 16th May 2008 17:37
I would have liked the sun to be off center (probably in the left 1/3 line) to feel like it lead me in to the picture.
DonnyG PRO
Fri 16th May 2008 23:57
The sky is exposed very nicely but I think that it needs a starting point somewhere. If it's possible, maybe even move in closer to the water and use the reflections as a fg. occasionally in those situations you can get away with not using any graduated ND but they're prefered.
prdigy001
Sat 17th May 2008 04:13
Sunset wasnt as good tonight, so i didnt bother going all the way out to the lake, but i tryed the file merge and this is what i came up with




Practice practice practice!

Ill keep working on it!!
LisaSam67 PRO
Sat 17th May 2008 15:41
Originally posted by Captivelight:
Neutral Density Graduated filter

ok Louis that filter is a bit different from the one i have been using for the water angel hair shots
that one i read about in one of my books last week

Miles.... is this one square and it slides on a bracket thingy so you can slide it up and down for the right positioning on the horizon?
Captivelight PRO
Sat 17th May 2008 18:07
Yes, that is correct LisaSam.



The top part is all the parts broken down into individual components, the bottom part is how they all fit together.

The filter shown is a 0.9 (3 stops of light difference between the clear and the darkest areas of the grad) Lee filter

You can buy screw on round ones but they are as useful as a chocolate fire guard as you can't move the grad line to suit the horizon. Best leave well alone and stick to the "normal" slide in ones.

Hope that helps.
LisaSam67 PRO
Sat 17th May 2008 19:26
Originally posted by Captivelight:

Hope that helps.

yes it does
i have a thing like that for my '83 nikon fm2 and some graduated orange and a graduated polarizer i believe

i see a camera store visit in my near future to add to the d300's toys haha
Captivelight PRO
Sat 17th May 2008 19:31
If it fits on your FM2, it should fit onto the D300. You may need different filter rings to fit the D300 lenses, and the holder just clips to those. I only use ND Grads, a polariser and very very occasionally an 81 B (amber coloured) warm up filter.
LisaSam67 PRO
Sat 17th May 2008 21:29
it screws onto my 50mm lens so i'm not sure if it will.... actually i'm pretty sure it wont but no biggy

i've been thinking of getting the warming filter.... i was reading one of my books the other day and the guy said pretty much the same as you as to the filters he uses.... he won't even put the uv filter on for protection.. says "that's what the lens cap is for lmao..... he's right
Captivelight PRO
Sun 18th May 2008 09:27
Noooo ... I ALWAYS put a UV filter. I once bought a nice shiny new Nikon 28 - 105 lens and within 3 hours of picking it up I accidentally knocked the front element with a gate latch, scratching it badly. Also, just a few months ago my macro lens was hit in the front element as well, shattering the UV filter, which to me was better then scratching the front lens element.



Imagine that had been the front lens element!
LisaSam67 PRO
Sun 18th May 2008 15:50
omg what on earth hit that?

and yes i use the protective uv filter on ALL our lenses
Captivelight PRO
Sun 18th May 2008 16:51
Lol ... that one was a door handle!
prdigy001
Sun 18th May 2008 20:49
ouch!! sucks about the lens man

Ill look into picking one of those filters up.
PhotoPro PRO
Mon 19th May 2008 17:53
Originally posted by LisaSam67:
and yes i use the protective uv filter on ALL our lenses

me too - I would never chance a broken glass - the lens is then useless and I'm not independently wealthy..:-))
Captivelight PRO
Tue 20th May 2008 05:35
I actually had the last laugh on the lens. There was (really!) a manufacturing fault in it as well, so Nikon agreed to swap it for a brand new one a couple of weeks later. I didn't mention the scratched lens and nor did they as that had nothing to do with the fault.

:)
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