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| ThorBeverley PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 16:52
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I entirely agree with all the points made above by jomoud and others - I pay for PRO membership for several reasons but one of the big reasons is to avoid the ads.
So why bring them back FT - if you want to "try something out" then we should be consulted beforehand!
I'm at work now but I will be repeating jomouds exercise at home later to see how many cookies and other unwanted this FT leaves on my machine - I will keep you posted.
I will also be contacting FT directly to express my concern.
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| Swed Thu 7th Jun 2007 17:32
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i went pro cause it said i could have unlimited this and unlimited that and albums.... first off .. i still dont get lots of comments,( and i do post comments) i have used the albums but i dont know if anyone has even looked at them, it says i can add more than 5 pics a day but if i do no one looks at more than the last 2 i upload for the amount i paid for "pro" i didnt find i got enough features to buy it again, let alone the ads, try giving us something for our money!!!
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| Swed Thu 7th Jun 2007 17:40
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so when one party backs out of a written agreement shouldnt we get our money back?
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| Sketty PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 17:57
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Originally posted by Fotothing:
This is just something we're trying out. Yeah, and it's clearly gone over like a lead balloon. 'Trying out' sounds so innovative but really you were 'trying out' more ways to make money for yourself.
I am willing to bet that this 'trying out' period lasts forever
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| cleftref PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 18:05
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As Megmet says, it can put people off going pro - nobody in their right mind is going to use an allowance of 200 pics a day as the biggest draw for going pro!
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| cleftref PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 18:13
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Well said dom!
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| jomoud PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 18:30
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Originally posted by dom:
The contract (most) people agreed to when they went PRO specifically stated no ads. It's the single reason that a lot of people had for upgrading. I'm not sure what the legalties are, but this is very much against the spirit of the agreement.. not to mention a fantastic way to piss your paying customers off.
I have been a member of Dom's site for quite awhile, although my uploads here far outnumber the uploads at that site. The reason I prefer FT over any other site was the ability to interact with the many friends I have made here, such as through messages and the forums..
However, when many friends decide to leave here for elsewhere, then there comes a point that I may have to give up on FT as well.
All through my FT membership I have supported and promoted the site. I can name many others on here who also were instrumental in bringing new members to FT. There are members here, (including me) who supported FT to such an extend that they bought year long memberships for others, just because they believed in the site and wanted to assist friends they made here.
As an appreciation from FT for their support, we get spat in the face with this garbage.
Not even the courtesy of an advance consultation. No warning or request for input.
No, they entered into a contract with paying FT members, took the money, and now just unilaterally break the contract. If they insist on going this route, then they should have had the decency to only change the terms of my contract when it is up for renewal, not before. I can at that time elect to accept the new terms or decline, and revert to non paying member status, or leave for another site.
If I acted like this in my profession I would be reported to the Law Society within a short time.
It tells me that FT and ADVFN does not give a hoot about FT members who have stuck with them and helped build this site to what it is. The fact that many long-time Pro members worked with them and defended them during times of difficult technical problems apparently means zilch to them.
Basic corporate GREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| PhotoPro PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 18:32
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Originally posted by megmet:
Another consiquence of the tracking cookies is that for anyone like me who runs software to block tracking cookies the whole site is now running slower. :((
Unfortunately not the tracking cookies causing the problem meg - I allow Fotothing cookies and the performance is just as slow as it was before the server was replaced. It's not a hardware problem either - it's a coding issue.
BTW, did I say?
Originally posted by PhotoPro:
Again, please un-try it
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| icemarkuk PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 18:38
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I suspect the problem is that the site is not paying for itself.
That said, they should have discussed it in open.
If you wish to make the ads go away then block the google ads site.'pagead2.googlesyndication.com'
an easy way to do this is to edit to HOSTS file in
c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
and add the line
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
This will point ALL access to google ads to your local machine, which in turn will fail. All ads will be gone, you will however see and error page where the ads were.
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| Swed Thu 7th Jun 2007 19:16
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great thought, i have been debating going to a stock site but it sounds very complicated to set it all up and such, most of the sites i looked at you had to pay b4 you could even see what you were paying for, ( but maybe discussing stock sites is for another thread) but i do think that would be a great asset for fotothing, and i am sure there are many many other suggestions for fotothing to make money if they would just ask its users what WE want, .... can you imagine a "buy this print" button under your pic,(if u clicked the box to sell it) and you just get a check every month for a percentage of the profit...... i would do it, and they would get way more uploads
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| backstreets PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 20:41
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Originally posted by jomoud:
paid for Pro to have NO ads
That was the agreement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im 100% with you....
this is ridiculous....total lack of respect..............maybe im to naive....been waiting for so long for improvements and new features , like it was promised by the new "team " that took over a few months ago....
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| Ruedi PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 20:42
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For FT to make money, if they would just ask its users what WE want!!!!
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| garynumber1cleaner Thu 7th Jun 2007 21:03
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Thanks for the feedback. This is just something we're trying out.
Wow .... I have my own web site and I pay for it the same as you PRO's have paid for your own personal privilege of having only your additions on your gallery ..the same as my web site..my web site .my pages, if someone tried out links to there web sites on mine then I can tell you there would be big trouble (for them), I know you have not paid the same Individually for your Pro membership as I have for my Web Pages... but collectively you have paid much much more... but then does the price matter.. you get what you pay for, I did ..but it seems you have not ? this thread worries me :-(
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| GeoffReeves Thu 7th Jun 2007 21:24
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Originally posted by PhotoPro:
Again, please un-try it
Quote of 2007.......just has to be.!
Nice one Bill :-)))
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| megmet PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 21:32
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Originally posted by PhotoPro:
It's not a hardware problem either - it's a coding issue.
I couldn't agree more Bill..... It's the same with other things that don't work as they should here and its the reason I don't go Pro.
I hate not paying my way on this site, but as long as even basic faults are blamed by admin on Norton Internet Security and nothing is done about them.....I shall not be going Pro!
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| DavidNewland PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 22:25
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I remember the "pro member" can of worms I opened a while ago.
It led to friendships, enemies and in a few instances, marriage.
However putting ads on the site to cover the cost of the fees via banner clicks is fine for non-pro's but
for the people who did the banner work bypass ( via paying ) I cant see how the management could have green-lighted this ?
I think you'll find a lot of people will use google / ebay for anything they actually want to find online.
Banners / popups have only been good for one thing :
People making lots of money from selling pop up blocker / anti adware software.
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| stuboy Thu 7th Jun 2007 22:47
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Originally posted by LisaSam67:
STU!!!!!!!!! get the foil hats out again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they've broken the code!!!!! the google men are BACK!!!
I don't think that will work this time Lisa, what we need now is brute force & mindless violence.
Ok, lets have a whip-round for a cash strapped Fotothing.
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| ThorBeverley PRO Thu 7th Jun 2007 22:51
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As promised I 'cleaned' my computer tonight using Adaware, only accessed FT and then 'cleaned' it again.
The result - 5 items of spyware in just over one hour, admittedly classified as 'low-risk' but logically they all must have come through the ''something we are trying out" ie the adverts.
My answer? FT stop the ads, stop infecting my computer and stick to your side of the PRO deal!
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| mickmusser Fri 8th Jun 2007 00:10
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I don't like it either. The other night, ads on my page allerted me that it was time to reup my PRO payment...but they didn't go away.
I refuse point blank to click on any ad appearing on my fotothing pages.
mick
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| jomoud PRO Fri 8th Jun 2007 00:13
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now the CONTACT US button to the left gives a wrong email addy
for complaints etc. it should be: support@fotothing.com
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